Adding Projectos w/o hardware

Discussion in 'Lasershow Designer BEYOND' started by SendTheLasers, Sep 22, 2014.

  1. SendTheLasers

    SendTheLasers Member

    I currently own only one FB3.

    I've noticed that I can only preview and edit only one projector. Does Beyond not allow me to preview or add more projectors within the program because I only have one FB3? What if I want to design and preview more in Beyond at once besides only my one projector?

    I am very new to Beyond and I am still very much in the process of trying to wrap my head around how this program works still.
  2. ENOT

    ENOT Software Developer Staff Member

    A couple of hints.
    - main menu Settings->"Laser and EmuLaser" dialog, it allow add "demo projector".
    - Pangolin highly recommend to think in terms of Projection Zones rather than in terms of Projectors.

    Best Regards,
  3. SendTheLasers

    SendTheLasers Member

    Ok so I figured out how to add "Demo Projectors" .. but I am having trouble understanding exactly how the setup works.

    I only have two demo projectors right now and I'm trying to add one zone to each projector but in the Universe on the right it only shows one zone name. In the projection zone settings if I move my "left 1" to the top then only left 1 shows in the universe .. same thing happens with the "right 1". My thought was that I want each projector to have its own zone right?

    I also want to know .. what is the best route for programming to music tracks and how you do it? I'm assuming its the timeline but Im really confused. I'm using the apc40 and I come from a lighting background with console experience .. How do I create content and then store it in the apc without completely deleting a preset? Do i have pages for storing cues for songs in the apc40? Im just having a hard time understanding the order of operations with beyond .. this is only my second day with the program so bare with me but its frustrating. My goals are to learn how to pre-program for songs as well as have created content that I can quickly flash during shows. Is there any official programming manual for beyond? the tutorial videos on youtube don't dive in really.
  4. Stuka

    Stuka Well-Known Member

    The APC 40 does not store anything -
    It is just a device to send MIDI triggers and control signal signals to Beyond (or other MIDI-enabled software). It triggers cues that are stored and displayed in the Beyond active cue grid, and also sends additional MIDI commands to control other aspects of the software.

    Individual cues are created and stored in cells in the cue grid -
    This is what the matrix buttons on the APC 40 are actually setup to trigger.

    Cues in the grid can also be used to store shows, PangoScript commands, and DMX cues for external DMX equipment.

    The cue grid is (generally) actually stored, created in, and played from the current workspace file. Shows can be saved as cues in the grid / workspace, and can also be saved as separate Beyond show files.

    Shows are built on the timeline, which is where you would setup the laser effects (and any other effect controllable by Beyond) synced to music - very similar to the way you would put together video clips with just about any basic video-editing software. Shows can be played back from the timeline screen, as part of a playlist (VERY handy!), or if stored as a cue, triggered from the cue grid, by whatever means you want to use (mouse, keyboard, APC 40, etc.) to trigger cues.

    No in-depth manual is out for Beyond yet, but we have been told it will likely be part of the 2.0 software release. Some of the Beyond basics can be found in the help file found in the current version.

    You'll probably want to go online and read up a bit on MIDI and MIDI controllers. Keep in mind that the APC 40 was designed as a dedicated controller for Ableton Live software, and the controller itself is not programmable - all the hardware controls on it are hard-wired to send specific MIDI commands. Just about every function in Beyond is programmable, and the APC 40 template Pangolin provides reprograms many of the Beyond defaults so they work with the APC 40.

    Beyond actually has a LOT of MIDI capability, but much of it relies on using PangoScript programming. VERY powerful capabilities, but not really intuitive unless you're already a computer programmer! That said, the basic grid controls (cues, rotation, zoom, size, etc.) can be mapped fairly easily to a typical, non-dedicated programmable MIDI controller. However, to get the bi-directional features (cue status indicators, etc.) used with controllers like the APC 40 takes a LOT of custom programming!

    Give yourself PLENTY of time to work with Beyond and GRADUALLY learn the features. A weekend or two of tinkering is NOT going to be enough for most people!!

    I would recommend you just start with the default workspace, and figure out what all the on-screen controls do when clicked by a mouse. Then, connect the APC 40, load the Pangolin template, and figure out what the APC is controlling. (It's not actually doing anything you couldn't already do with a series of mouse clicks & drags, but is DEFINITELY more convenient!!)

    Concerning show creation ~

    Shows basically start out with a song file added to the media track, then adding cues from the grid (or created on the track) to other tracks as needed to sync to the software.

    That's the extremely over-simplified explanation. The detailed explanation would require many chapters worth of instruction, and requires a lot of patience and tinkering!

    Good luck, and give yourself time to learn & enjoy.
    Beyond is incredibly powerful once you start understanding the way things work
    (And I seem to discover something new everytime I launch the software!! :cool:)

    Last edited: Sep 24, 2014