DMX Madness

Discussion in 'Lasershow Designer QuickShow' started by Rob Bailey, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. Rob Bailey

    Rob Bailey Member

    I think I'm going crazy. I have this wonderful Laser, Quickshow, and an Entec DMXUSB Pro interface. All I want to do is to be able to select a cue and modulate some of the display parameters via DMX, I can't find any step by step guide to making this work! This wonderful and extremely powerful laser just hums and stays dark when I set the operation mode to DMX. When the operation mode is set to QuickShow, nothing in any of the DMX windows makes any difference! I can see values change as it goes through the various steps, but no output ever seems to reach the laser. Ultimately, I want to set up cues and control the laser via DMX using the Entec DMXIS interface from a plug in running in Digital Performer so I can have synched display to my tracks. Somebody must have done this before, but I'm almost ready to toss in the towel.... Any help out there?
     
  2. Igor Strakhov

    Igor Strakhov Staff Member

    Hi, Rob!
    I'm not quite sure what you call Quick Show operation mode, DMX operation mode, DMX windows. Can you send screenshots here?
    Which controller do you use? FB3 or FB4?
    Have you watched this video ?
     
  3. Rob Bailey

    Rob Bailey Member

    Hi Igor, and thanks for the quick response. Yes, I have watched the video. It demonstrates nicely how to run a dimmer pack, but what I need are the specific steps to manipulate a laser cue (as well as select a laser cue) via DMX. I can't get QuickShow to get my laser to respond to any DMX commands at all. Additionally, my interface for QuickShow (latest version) differs slightly from the one in the videos, and that's a little frustrating. On the FB4 controller on my laser, when its set to Quickshow/Beyond Operation mode, I get communication (I can toggle cues and manipulate them with the live performance controls), but I can't get the QuickDMX window in QuickShow to send anything that the laser will respond to. If I set the FB4 module on the laser to DMX mode, it just stays dark... I have a very specific goal in mind. I'm running tracks in Digital Performer, and ultimately I want to use the DMXis plug in to control cue selection and image manipulation for the laser. How does one audition the DMX messages with the FB4 laser unit? It's driving me nuts! All the tech support people say its simple, but I can't find any "how-to" info...
     
  4. Hans-Günter Schuh

    Hans-Günter Schuh New Member

    das geht doch gar nicht. Der DMX ist nur für Lichtsteuerung gedacht.
     
  5. Rob Bailey

    Rob Bailey Member

    Then why is there DMX in/out, an option for remote control via DMX on the FB4 controller, and a DMX channel map published showing what DMX channels are used to select cues, rotate x,y,z, change RGB values and so on. It would seem to me that and awful lot of published data contradicts you comment. Also, I've spoked directly with Pangolin tech support people and they assure me it is possible. I just don't have the step by step setup...
     
  6. Igor Strakhov

    Igor Strakhov Staff Member

    Hi, Rob!

    There are 2 options for DMX laser control in your case.
    In both cases we need 2 devices (if we are working with QuickShow).
    One of them generates DMX signal and the other receives it.

    1. If you have an FB4 DMX https://pangolin.com/collections/laser-control-hardware/products/fb4-dmx-with-quickshow

    In this case, QuickShow is only needed to export files to the SD card.
    Then you connect your Enttec DMX-output to the FB4 DMX-input and control your laser with your software (for example Digital Performer,) via Enttec DMX
    In this case it is necessary to enable DMX mode on FB4

    2. If you have an FB4 Standart https://pangolin.com/collections/laser-control-hardware/products/fb4-standard-with-quickshow or FB3

    In this case some external device should generate DMX signal and this signal should come to the DMX-input of your Enttec Pro (for example)
    In the Quick Show, you set up DMX-Settings:
    View attachment upload_2019-12-9_1-7-16.png
    And you turn it on:
    View attachment upload_2019-12-9_1-8-16.png
    In this case it is necessary to enable Beyond/QS mode on FB4

    Control Table
    View attachment upload_2019-12-9_1-9-2.png
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2019 at 7:23 PM
  7. Rob Bailey

    Rob Bailey Member

    Thanks, Igor. You appear to be "da man" in this dialogue I will endeavour to work through this flow over the next week. Most concrete response I've had yet from anyone. Certainly more useful that a comment in German saying its not possible! :) I do have the FB4 controller built into the laser, and I have all the Entec devices (both for QuickShow and the DMXis for DAW control). If I understand you correctly, the FB4 on the laser must be in Beyond/QS mode in order to be able to select cues via DMX? I don't have an external FB4 controller. The FB4 (at least that' what I assume it is) is built into the laser enclosure itself. Do your instructions still apply?
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  8. Igor Strakhov

    Igor Strakhov Staff Member

    Inside or out, your FB4 is irrelevant in this case.

    There are several versions of FB4
    I've written above what you should do depending on your FB4 version:
    if you have FB4 DMX -> DMX mode
    if you have FB4 MAX -> DMX mode
    if you have FB4 Standart -> Beyond/QS mode

    Also, depending on the version of your FB4 there will be different physical connections
     
  9. Rob Bailey

    Rob Bailey Member

    So which variation is this then?
     

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  10. Igor Strakhov

    Igor Strakhov Staff Member

    It looks like an FB4 MAX
    If that's true, then your option 1

    In this case, QuickShow is only needed to export files to the SD card.
    Then you connect your Enttec DMX-output to the FB4 DMX-input and control your laser with your software (for example Digital Performer,) via Enttec DMX
    In this case it is necessary to enable DMX mode on FB4
     
  11. Igor Strakhov

    Igor Strakhov Staff Member